Longlegs‘ Osgood “Oz” Perkins The filmmaker is in a remarkably calm mood, especially considering that he’s getting the best reviews of all his career. His Maika Monroe The following are some examples of how to get started: Nicolas CageThis horror-thriller, starring, has been the talk in town for several months. Neon’s Marketing department has created one of most inspiring promotional campaigns in recent history. They’ve You can make use of Perkins’ fourth feature feel like a buzzy event film à la the work of his friend and collaborator, Jordan Peele. and the creepy procedural involving an FBI agent’s (Monroe( Self-actualizing pursuit ) Satanic serial killer (Cage( ) is well-deserving of this treatment. (Perkins Play Director Fynn Bachman The following are some examples of how to use Peele’s Nope.)

Perkins’ Longlegs Enters theaters on Friday, joining Ti West’s MaXXXineThe swan song of the weekend was. The Two genre pictures share an interesting connection. MaXXXine The film features two sequences that involve the Psycho Set on the Universal Studios backlot. Alfred Hitchcock’s The seminal horror film from 1960 has been transformed into a thriller PerkinsThe late father Anthony, has become a cultural icon and he is keenly aware how his father’s legacy as Norman Bates In the years since, he has reflected on his own complex relationship with genre works. (West’s Film also refers to 1983’s Psycho IIn which Oz Enjoy the best of both worlds with this play Young Norman Bates.)

“My dad [Anthony Perkins] was, on the one hand, a real shining light in the genre space, having created one of the more indelible characters in movies, nevermind in horror movies or in crime movies and killer movies. So there was the intense radiating pride around that that was mixed with this very uneasy thing that was happening,” Perkins Tells The Hollywood Reporter. “When I was coming into my 12- to-15-year-old self and getting into movies, my father was making very bad horror movies. He was being paid well to go to Europe and do shit. And it was obvious that this stuff was shit; it used to upset my mom [Berry Berenson] quite a lot. So the disparity between the zenith of things, which was Psycho, and the basin of things, which was, for instance, a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde movie [Edge of Sanity] that he made when I was a kid, has always planted in me an uneasiness around the horror genre.”

That The unease and internal conflict that he describes is partly why he makes his own modern horror films, but avoids more recent works of his peers. 

“On the one hand, I want to identify or atone with the father by going down the same path and representing the good name in the genre in question, but then I also have a sort of a distaste for it,” Perkins explains. “I wouldn’t say I’m someone who likes or dislikes horror movies. I don’t see new ones. I have no interest. I’ll never see MaXXXine, I’ll never see Pearl. I saw X for reasons; it wasn’t on purpose. I don’t see contemporary things. They don’t interest me at all, and that’s not to say that they aren’t great. I’m sure they are great and make a lot of people happy, which is all that really matters. But I like the horror genre because it’s the genre that permits the most invention and it encourages the most poetry. It’s all guessing and grasping at what is essentially unknowable.”

Longlegs This book is primarily about the different lies that parents tell to protect their kids. Perkins He drew this theme from both his experiences as a son and a father. 

“I try not to tell my children any protective lies, having grown up in a family where certain truths were curated, not maliciously and with any kind of cruelty or dismissiveness, but rather as a move to sustain the family and keep things together,” Perkins says. “So the idea that a mom, in this case, can create a story, a lie, a narrative, a version and dress their children in it like a hazmat suit, is definitely where [Longlegs] came from. That’s the kernel of truth that started the process.”

Below, during a conversation with THR, Perkins Also discusses why he has changed his mind about the casting MonroeBefore previewing his highly comical approach to his next movie, The MonkeyBased on the Stephen King Short of the same name.

After I saw LonglegsI walked up the hall to see MaXXXineBecause I went from your present back to your past. MaXXXine Has a couple of sequences that occur on Universal’s Psycho set. The Even the film you were in 1983 references this sequel. [as Young Norman Bates]. Can You draw a line between that foundation and Longlegs? Can What do you think about your past?

That’s It was a great way to start this interview. As When a son is the child of a parent, there is an inborn desire to discover who this person really is. We Try to emulate your parents or, in this case emulate the father and atone for him. If You’re in the Joseph Campbell-ian, you’ll want to try aligning yourself. How What if you had to match your partner for the best and the worst? 

My dad [Anthony Perkins] On the one hand, was a real shining star in the genre space. He created one the more indelible character in The movieNever mind in horror films, crime movies, and killer movies. So There was a feeling of intense pride mixed with the unease that was occurring. When My father made very bad horror films when I was between the ages of 12 and 15 years old. He It was a good idea to go to Europe Do shit. And This stuff used to make my mom upset. [Berry Berenson] quite a lot. So The difference between the zenith and the height of things was PsychoThe basin of things was, for example, a You can also find out more about the Dr. Jekyll The following are some examples of how to get started: Mr. Hyde Movie [Edge of Sanity] that he made when I was a kid, has always planted in me an uneasiness around the horror genre.

On On the one hand I want to represent the genre and the father’s good name, but I also dislike it. I wouldn’t call it distaste. I’m I don’t see any new ones. I’m not interested in new horror movies. I’m not interested. I’ll Never See MaXXXine, I’ll Never See Pearl. I saw X There were no deliberate reasons. I can’t find anything contemporary. They They don’t really interest me, but that doesn’t mean they’re not great. I’m Sure, they’re great and make many people happy. That’s all that matters. 

But The horror genre is my favorite because it allows for the most creativity and encourages the best poetry. It’s Guessing and grasping are all that can be done to try to understand what is inherently unknowable. At That’s the way it is for me. If Someone tries to entice you with a retelling Jeffrey Dahmer In front of me I could not pass something harder. It’s It is not very interesting to me when someone pretends to be a killer. It has no appeal. It’s Very base is how I would describe you. I’d Watching is much more enjoyable Tod Browning’s Dracula The romance, luxury, pomp and circumstance of such a work and its majesty turn me on. But To see a contemporary Terrifier Or things like that. That’s not the kind of thing I want to put into my mind. 

DP Andrés Arochi and Oz Perkins on the set of Longlegs

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There’s a coming-of-age moment where we realize the big and small lies our parents once told us in order to protect us, The following are some examples of how to get started: as you’ve confirmed, that’s what Longlegs is mostly exploring. Did your parents’ protective lies inspire this story, or was it more the protective lies you’ve told your own children? 

I try not to tell my children any protective lies, having grown up in a family where certain truths were curated, not maliciously and with any kind of cruelty or dismissiveness, but rather as a move to sustain the family and keep things together. So the idea that a mom, in this case, can create a story, a lie, a narrative, a version and dress their children in it like a hazmat suit, is definitely where the movie came from. That’s the kernel of truth that started the process. What gets the ball rolling for me is, “What’s the kernel of truth?” And then you figure out how to dress that truth up.

As far as plot, Silence of the Lambs and the JonBenét Ramsey case were your jumping-off points? 

Silence of the Lambs became the shorthand invitation to the audience to step through a door with me and to feel relaxed and soothed with a familiarity. It’s quoting a song that everybody knows, and it gets the audience in position. So that was what the Silence of the Lambs bit was about.

The JonBenét Ramsey case was a true crime piece that I was really interested in when it was happening, and it really was compelling to me because the hidden solution was so hard to see. It seemed so clear what the answer was, and, of course, it wasn’t that answer at all. I read a nonfiction true crime book about it, and on the night that she died, it was Christmastime. And one of the presents her parents had gotten her was a life-sized replica [My Twinn] doll of herself that was in a box with a bow on it in the basement under her bedroom. So when she was being murdered, there was this doll of herself 20 feet away, lying in the same posture in, essentially, a coffin. That detail was just such a wild thing, and certain things stick, so that became an influence for how this movie was going to work. [Writer’s Note: In John and Patsy Ramsey’s The Death of Innocence, Patsy described retrieving the doll from its basement hiding spot, and being startled by how much the boxed doll looked like her daughter in a coffin.]

Nicolas Cage as Longlegs in Longlegs

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Did Nic Cage show up to set with the Longlegs character ready to go? Or did you set the dials together ahead of time? 

We set the dials together ahead of time. It started with the words on the page, which he faithfully said. He performed the words as written. He treated the script as text. There’s no riffing. There’s no improvising. There’s no ad-libbing. Everything that Longlegs says in the movie was in the script that Nic got. And, from there, we just started talking about who we thought this kind of person was and what his life had been like and where he was coming from and what it felt like to be him. And then you toggle between the melody or the cadence You can also check out the words, the poetry You can also check out the language. You start to match that with a certain sensibility. You start to shape your voice around certain words, and it evolves organically between the two of us over the phone. 

And by the time he gets to Vancouver to meet me to shoot the movie, he’s in it. He doesn’t want to hang out. He doesn’t want to go to dinner. He doesn’t want to meet the producers. He doesn’t want to shake anybody’s hand. He wants to talk to me between takes as Nicolas Cage. He didn’t talk as Longlegs between takes. He talked as Cage to me, but to everybody else, he was only Dale Cobble all the time. Nic is an astonishing finely tuned instrument. It should come as no surprise because he’s such a special performer. You think, “Well, of course, he’s finely tuned,” but nobody reads more and remembers more and knows more and can reference more and is quicker on their feet than Nicolas Cage.

Maika Monroe has done all sorts of work, but she really seems to thrive in genre fare. Why do you think this type of material suits her so well? 

Because she’s one You can also check out these actors who can do this really important thing, which is to show that they’re hiding something. On camera, when the lens is on them, you can see that there’s something that’s being contained. I think of movies, or any story that you tell, You can also read about how to get started. a sequence of revelations to a conclusion. So, if you’re goThe following are some examples of how to useg to be dealing in revelations, you’re also dealing in concealment. And if you’ve got an actor like Maika or all the actors I’ve worked with like Sophia Lillis or Ruth Wilson or Tatiana Maslany a hundred times over, they are so brilliant at submerging something really significant in their faces and behind their eyes. And it really works for the horror genre where everything is about what is submerged, what is out of sight, what is in the shadows and what is beyond the door.

Maika Monroe as Lee Harker in Longlegs

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Maika told me You can also find out more about us here. she had to fight for the role of Lee Harker after initially being told no. What were your hangups at the time? 

I don’t know that I had any hangups. I don’t want to say that casting is the hardest thing. It’s actually an easy thing, I find, because you know the person mThe following are some examples of how to usee The following are some examples of how to use less when you see them. And so, after I’d met Maika, I knew she wYou can also read about how to get started. really great for it. But you end up seeThe following are some examples of how to useg a lot The following are some examples of how to use people and you end up going down a lot of roads in your mind about what it would be like, a year from now, to have done it with that person. So it takes a certain amount of time to just settle on your leads because they represent so much of the meaning of the picture. But, ultimately, the disparity between who Maika is in a coffee shop and who she is on screen, the disparity between those two entities is so vast. To me, that’s where all the energy lies. The energy lies in that disparity, and it becomes very filmable.

I seem to be alone in this observation, but was Lee’s hair and makeup meant to resemble a porcelain doll at all? 

I never told anybody to do that. But I really do believe in the very basic and elemental fact that there are going to be people in and around the movie who have better ideas than me. So, is it possible that one of the makeup people took it upon themselves to tweak in that direction and not say anything? It could have been. My job, as director, is that if I see sohing, I say something. And When she got in front, it looked good. If There’s a subliminal message embedded.

Are You are willing to testify on oath about that Kiernan Shipka Is this film real? Because She still hasn’t played Carrie Anne Camera.

(Laughs.) YeahShe’s in it. We Had her come out for one day. I needed to fill a role, and she was a great actress and badass. She She does it every time. She’s She’s a pro, she is enthusiastic and alive. She’s also smart and funny. And The following are some of the ways to get in touch with us. Carrie Anne Camera The dialect of the English language is difficult. It’s She performs a difficult monologue in which many letters are placed incorrectly and some words are not words. And She followed the instructions to the letter. She never asked me twice, or even once. She It is important to read the text carefully and make it work. She’s amazing.

You Thank you for your kind words Nope director, Jordan PeeleThe credits. Was Is he part of your notes network? 

No, Jordan It’s a good friend of mine who has shared his work with me, as well as his process. That’s A level of engagement which turns you on. It’s It’s hard to make up stories all the time and be alone with a blinking cursor who doesn’t give a damn about you. SoIt’s important to thank people you admire when you feel a sense of comradeship with them. They Give you power and you have to get it from somewhere. So You feed off other people’s brilliance and I don’t mind doing the same. Jordan’s A little bit.

Who Current possession of Longlegs‘ “bits box”? [Writer’s Note: Lee’s mom is a hoarder who saved Lee’s fingernails, teeth and hair at different ages, so the props department collected these “bits” from their own family members.]

(Laughs.) I hope that the bits box will be with the kids at the props department. They’re my kids, because they are in their 20s. There were times that the bits box would be cut from the film. And Every time we were about to cut the cable, I would say, “It’s almost like cutting it.” “I just can’t cut the bits box. It’s too beautiful a work of cinematic prop art. It has to go in.” So The kids must still have it. 

You Wrap your adaptation Stephen King’s The short version “The Monkey” Not so long ago Is The Monkey What’s the funniest film you’ve ever created?  

By far. It’s deliberately comedic. It’s Feeling older John Landis movie or a Joe Dante movie or a Robert Zemeckis movie. I saw the opportunity to create a wry and absurdist comedy on death. It’s about the very basic fact that we all die — and how fucking funny and weird and impossible and surreal is that shit? And To approach the subject from a tragicomedy perspective seemed to fit. At It’s either the evil or haunted toy subgenre. I can’t imagine doing one that’s serious. To It sounded utterly wrong to me. So I went the other way. For The movie makes me smile from top-to-bottom. I’m I am looking forward to seeing the film.

You Male protagonists are a common theme in The MonkeyBut you’ve mainly worked with female characters. Do Have you ever thought about why you are drawn to stories that feature female protagonists?

The material is mysterious to me. It Making me an expert in what? I’m It keeps me curious and engaged. It I’m also kept in the dark about certain aspects of this thing. SoIf everything in horror films is hidden, I should find some places to hide myself. If I’m It’s better to have a woman protagonist that I will never be able to fully understand, than to try to learn everything about the image. It It creates a blank space which I try to fill out and interpret. It’s Something to develop, grow or create in that space.

Lastly. Longlegs The story is this: Lee She can’t seem to remember her 9th birthday. But I cannot remember mine either. Can Do you remember the one that was yours? 

No, man. No way. My Nine years ago, it would have been 1983 when you celebrated your ninth birthday. That My Miami Vice period. On Halloween In 1983 I went as Sonny Crockett I have my sleeves rolled. But. for my birthday I was definitely in Los AngelesIn Laurel CanyonWith my parents and a bunch fancy people. But no, I can’t remember.

Longlegs The movie opens on July 12.

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